Open-Source Voice Activity Detection with TEN Framework's Ziyi Lin

Sep 24, 2025
00:33:38

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Show Notes

Ziyi Lin, speech engineer on the TEN Framework team, joins the Convo AI World podcast to explore the design and impact of a new open-source Voice Activity Detection (VAD) model. The episode explores the challenges faced with existing VAD solutions, the importance of high-quality training data, and the design choices that led to improved performance metrics. Ziyi explains how VAD functions as a critical component in conversational AI, managing real-time processing and latency, and the advantages of deploying it on edge devices.

Key Topics Covered

  • Open-source Voice Activity Detection (VAD) development
  • Challenges with existing VAD solutions and performance limitations
  • Design choices for improved VAD performance and efficiency
  • Role of high-quality training data and pitch features
  • VAD as traffic controller in conversational AI pipelines
  • Edge deployment benefits and mobile device optimization
  • Benchmarking methodology and comparison with SOTA solutions
  • Multimodal integration with visual silence detection
  • Future challenges: overlapping speakers and whispered speech
  • Moonshot vision: emotion detection for empathetic AI agents

Episode Chapters & Transcript

00:00

Welcome and Introduction to TEN Framework

Hermes introduces the podcast and welcomes Ziyi Lin, speech engineer from the TEN Framework team, explaining what TEN is and its focus on multimodal AI agents.

01:11

The Need for Better VAD in Conversational AI

Ziyi explains why existing VAD solutions aren't sufficient for voice AI agents, discussing the need for low latency, robust performance against noise, and accurate start/end of sentence detection.

02:54

Challenges with Existing VAD Solutions

Discussion of limitations in traditional energy-based VAD, WebRTC VAD, and modern deep learning solutions like Silero VAD, including high false alarm rates and latency issues.

04:16

TEN VAD Performance Advantages

Ziyi discusses the superior performance of TEN VAD compared to alternatives, including lower false positives, smaller library size (300KB vs 1000-2000KB), and better latency.

05:26

Design Choices: High-Quality Training Data

The importance of precisely manually labeled training data over low-precision open source datasets for achieving better VAD performance and lower latency.

07:25

The Role of Pitch Features

How pitch (fundamental frequency) serves as a key feature for distinguishing human speech from noise, enabling better voice activity detection.

09:07

Robustness Across Diverse Environments

How TEN VAD handles different microphones, room configurations, reverberation, and scenarios including speech/music/background noise transitions.

10:48

VAD as Traffic Controller in AI Pipelines

VAD's role in triggering the STT-LLM-TTS cascade, managing real-time processing, and the critical importance of accurate start/end of sentence detection.

12:28

Edge Deployment Benefits

Advantages of deploying VAD on edge devices for reduced latency, bandwidth savings, and cost efficiency by only sending speech segments to cloud services.

14:38

Benchmarking and Performance Metrics

Evaluation methodology using large manually-labeled datasets and comparison with SOTA VAD solutions on precision-recall curves and area under curve metrics.

16:23

Mobile Deployment and CPU Efficiency

TEN VAD's minimal CPU impact on mobile devices despite being a binary classification task, enabling edge deployment without performance trade-offs.

18:05

Multitask Learning and Additional Capabilities

How TEN VAD uses multitask learning to improve performance and handle diverse use cases beyond simple voice activity detection.

20:41

Frontier Challenges and Future Problems

Discussion of unsolved problems like overlapping speakers, whispered speech detection, and the potential for semantic-level turn detection.

23:20

Multimodal Integration with Visual Cues

How VAD collaborates with visual silence detection for better turn-taking in multimodal agents, helping detect interruptions and improve conversation flow.

25:55

Moonshot Vision: Emotion Detection

Ziyi shares his vision for building emotion detection capabilities to make AI agents more empathetic and human-like, with appropriate emotional responses.

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#voice activity detection#VAD#TEN framework#speech engineer#conversational ai#open source#real-time processing#edge computing#training data#pitch features#multitask learning#emotion detection#multimodal ai#speech recognition#false positives#latency#benchmarking#mobile deployment