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In this episode of the Convo AI World Podcast, Hermes Frangoudis interviews Amogha Srirangarajan, Co-founder and CEO of Carbon Origins. They discuss the evolution of Carbon Origins from last-mile delivery robots to heavy machinery teleoperation, the integration of voice AI and VR in enhancing operator experiences, and the future of robotics in construction and space mining. Amogha shares insights on the challenges of labor shortages in critical industries and how Carbon Origins aims to address these through innovative technology and partnerships. The conversation also touches on ambitious plans for energy solutions and space exploration, highlighting the potential of robotics in shaping the future of human civilization.
Hermes introduces the podcast and welcomes Amogha Srirangarajan, Co-founder and CEO of Carbon Origins, with praise for their innovative work in robotics and AI.
Amogha explains the deep meaning behind the company name, discussing carbon-based life forms and their approach to training AI on data created by experts doing real jobs through teleoperation.
Discussion of Carbon Origins' evolution from sidewalk delivery robots during the pandemic to their current focus on heavy machinery teleoperation, driven by the vision to make robots commonplace.
Amogha introduces MARS (Multi-Purpose Autonomous Robotic Skid Steer) and explains why they chose skid steers as their flagship product due to their versatility and market penetration.
Amogha shares his background in aerospace and VR, from building rockets in the Mojave Desert to working with location-based VR entertainment, and how this prepared him for robotics challenges.
Deep dive into what operators experience when controlling machines through VR - one-to-one reality projection, enhanced situational awareness, and AI co-pilots for safety.
Discussion of the technical challenges and solutions for millisecond-level video streaming, including eye tracking for advanced compression and how market forces are aligning.
Amogha explains the 'gray tsunami' - experienced operators retiring without enough new workers entering the field, and how teleoperation extends careers while training AI.
How Carbon Origins uses voice AI and LLMs to automate complex pre-operation checklists, from system checks to tool-specific configurations, reducing cognitive load on operators.
Discussion of user interface design challenges, balancing voice AI features with haptic feedback, and ensuring operators feel empowered rather than overwhelmed.
How traditional heavy equipment operators adapt to VR interfaces, the choice between VR headsets and desktop controls, and training new operators from gaming backgrounds.
Amogha explains their approach of building the best teleoperation platform first, unlike competitors rushing to full autonomy, and why this matters for data collection and edge cases.
Deep dive into firefighting applications, from initial attack to fire watch, and how robots can operate in dangerous environments while protecting critical infrastructure.
Discussion of modular attachment systems, partnerships with domain experts like Fyrebx, and the advantages of retrofitting existing fleets versus buying new autonomous equipment.
Amogha shares his ambitious vision for lunar mining, building massive mirrors in space for energy collection, and solving Earth's future energy crisis through space-based solar power.
Discussion of how lunar mining will differ from Earth mining, the potential for solar sails powered by concentrated sunlight, and exploring Alpha Centauri in our lifetime.
Wrap-up discussion about the partnership between Carbon Origins and Agora, appreciation for the conversation, and looking forward to future innovations.
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